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The Art of Handcrafting Custom Game Calls => Handcrafting Custom Crow Calls => Topic started by: Brian Watts Custom Calls on July 25, 2010, 09:12:39 PM
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does any one know were i can buy a jig to make wooden crow call guts? i have search alot today cannot find nothing. hope some one can help..thanks brian
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I never used a jig for crow calls. Did them more by eye and trial and error. I basically take two strips of wood about 3" long, x 1" x 1/2" thick and stick them together with double sided tape. This gives me a 1" x 1" rectangular piece. I chuck it about halfway into a Oneway chuck and turn the exposed portion round to a tapered 5/8" diameter. -I'll also turn some "O" ring grooves in this section [Latta style].
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/HuntnCarve/July2010/CrowcallgutA.jpg) Next I'll drill a 1/4"diameter hole about 2-3/4" into the center of the turned portion. At this point I'll swap the piece end for end, and rechuck it. I'll finish turning the mouth portion to shape.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/HuntnCarve/July2010/CrowcallgutB.jpg)
Now remove from the piece from the chuck and mark about a 1/16" line on each side of the center (pieces will still be joined with the double side tape) tape line. Now draw a "V" about 3/4" long, using the 1/16" lines as the wings, and extending it down to a point in the center of the call. -This will be the area that gets sanded away. Now separate the taped pieces. On a stationary belt sander, I will carefully sand this marked area away on both halves. They should intersect and slightly overlap the end of the stopped 1/4" hole. At this point I'll insert a 10 mil reed and give it a test for sound. If you don't get the sound desired, sand the taper alittle more to open up the air hole. -Look in from the mouth end of the call and observe how much reed is exposed and adjust accordingly.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/HuntnCarve/July2010/CrowcallgutC.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/HuntnCarve/July2010/CrowcallgutD.jpg)
That'll give you a start. After you make a few it will become second nature. Hope this helps.
Dave
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I think that needs to be added to the tutorial section!!!
I never used a jig for crow calls. Did them more by eye and trial and error. I basically take two strips of wood about 3" long, x 1" x 1/2" thick and stick them together with double sided tape. This gives me a 1" x 1" rectangular piece. I chuck it about halfway into a Oneway chuck and turn the exposed portion round to a tapered 5/8" diameter. -I'll also turn some "O" ring grooves in this section [Latta style].
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/HuntnCarve/July2010/CrowcallgutA.jpg) Next I'll drill a 1/4"diameter hole about 2-3/4" into the center of the turned portion. At this point I'll swap the piece end for end, and rechuck it. I'll finish turning the mouth portion to shape.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/HuntnCarve/July2010/CrowcallgutB.jpg)
Now remove from the piece from the chuck and mark about a 1/16" line on each side of the center (pieces will still be joined with the double side tape) tape line. Now draw a "V" about 3/4" long, using the 1/16" lines as the wings, and extending it down to a point in the center of the call. -This will be the area that gets sanded away. Now separate the taped pieces. On a stationary belt sander, I will carefully sand this marked area away on both halves. They should intersect and slightly overlap the end of the stopped 1/4" hole. At this point I'll insert a 10 mil reed and give it a test for sound. If you don't get the sound desired, sand the taper alittle more to open up the air hole. -Look in from the mouth end of the call and observe how much reed is exposed and adjust accordingly.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/HuntnCarve/July2010/CrowcallgutC.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/HuntnCarve/July2010/CrowcallgutD.jpg)
That'll give you a start. After you make a few it will become second nature. Hope this helps.
Dave
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I do mine like Dave does, except after I use the tape to stick the 2 pieces together I turn them between centers to 5/8" diameter, then I use my collet chuck to drill out the tone channel, and turn my O ring grooves. Then remove and finish the mouth end by hand.
Marvin
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thank you for your time with pics to show me how to do this.. :bigup: :bigup:
I never used a jig for crow calls. Did them more by eye and trial and error. I basically take two strips of wood about 3" long, x 1" x 1/2" thick and stick them together with double sided tape. This gives me a 1" x 1" rectangular piece. I chuck it about halfway into a Oneway chuck and turn the exposed portion round to a tapered 5/8" diameter. -I'll also turn some "O" ring grooves in this section [Latta style].
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/HuntnCarve/July2010/CrowcallgutA.jpg) Next I'll drill a 1/4"diameter hole about 2-3/4" into the center of the turned portion. At this point I'll swap the piece end for end, and rechuck it. I'll finish turning the mouth portion to shape.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/HuntnCarve/July2010/CrowcallgutB.jpg)
Now remove from the piece from the chuck and mark about a 1/16" line on each side of the center (pieces will still be joined with the double side tape) tape line. Now draw a "V" about 3/4" long, using the 1/16" lines as the wings, and extending it down to a point in the center of the call. -This will be the area that gets sanded away. Now separate the taped pieces. On a stationary belt sander, I will carefully sand this marked area away on both halves. They should intersect and slightly overlap the end of the stopped 1/4" hole. At this point I'll insert a 10 mil reed and give it a test for sound. If you don't get the sound desired, sand the taper alittle more to open up the air hole. -Look in from the mouth end of the call and observe how much reed is exposed and adjust accordingly.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/HuntnCarve/July2010/CrowcallgutC.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/HuntnCarve/July2010/CrowcallgutD.jpg)
That'll give you a start. After you make a few it will become second nature. Hope this helps.
Dave
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Glad it helps! Like I said, it's more trial and error sanding the opening ever so slightly, sticking a reed in, and testing. I'll finish up with a sanding block to fine tune it. Maybe even deepen the air channel at the tip with a small gouge if need be?
For me, I like to have a "Shoulder" on the toneboard, to sit on the mouth of the call. So that's why I resist turning the mouth piece to a straight 5/8" diameter end to end. Works either way. Have fun!
Dave
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Great job on the tutorial. I would love to see this post made sticky so it would be easier to find in the future.
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Done!
Nice job Dave.
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Thanks Braz! I couldn't figure out how to make this a sticky? LOL!
Dave
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:bow:
Did you hear the collective thud as we all hit our forehead once we see how easy it is. Many over think, well at least I think that's what you call it :rofl:
Great tutorial :bigup:
my thoughts exactly..... now i need to find ice to put on my forhead
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Thanks Braz for making it sticky and to Dave for posting. :punk: :punk:
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:bigup: Dave I made the Crow Guts thanks for the tutorial it was a great help my only problem is I feel like the pitch is to hi any suggestions would be greatly appreciated i am just beginning to make calls,
Thanks
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I am in the process of having a crow call jig made. It will be much like the one I had done that will do flute tone boards on one end and short-reed tone boards on the other. I will cut off the top to the jig then run the jig through the shaper using a 1/4" winged hss cutter. I will have to two pieces to finish just one crow boards set. Sand to tune and form the lip grips at the ends, then cut a reed to fit. Custom is what its all about. My goal is to find the right depth in tone and perhaps gain more volume. I will be using mostly brazilian ironwood for these mouthpieces.
Oh, I forgot . . . I'll have to turn a bunch of 5/8" dowels to :gitrdone: