1st grunt that I am real happy with. Persimmon blank with Al's guts, teak oil and buffed finish. Messed around with the guts to get the sound that I wanted, without having to give that perfect push of air. Too many grunts I have used if you don't get it perfect,it cracks or squeals. I normally have a Vector with me, but I'll be using this one to see if it sounds good to the deer and not just me. I've got so much info from this forum, and texting Vince, I really appreciate it. Now I need to just figure out how to get the teak smell and taste off of the call, I've let it air out for awhile. Thanks everyone