I used the grunt call I made to call this 8 point to 25 yards, he was chasing doe's all over the place and grunting like mad . I started grunting every time he did and he come strolling in looking for a fight. well the 06 won that one. my oldest daughter was with me she loved every min of. Nothing could be better tha useing a call you made to fool one of gods creatures, and haveing you daughter sitting beside you.