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The Art of Handcrafting Custom Game Calls => Handcrafting Custom Turkey Calls => Topic started by: Aaron at Wingerts Woodworks on April 27, 2009, 12:27:41 PM

Title: spray or dip?
Post by: Aaron at Wingerts Woodworks on April 27, 2009, 12:27:41 PM
I've been using spray Deft (rattle cans) to finish my pots and strikers and it works pretty well.  It does get expensive since one can only does a few calls with as many coats as I put on.

Out of curiosity, does anyone buy a gallon of Deft and just dip their calls?  Does it work?  I've read a thing or two about the duck call makers dipping theirs.  I'm just concerned that it might get too much finish on the surface and lead to runs or globs, and I'm not quite sure how I'd attach a wire to them to actually dip them. 

Ideas?  Or should I stick with what's working?  :thanks:
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: VECtor Calls on April 27, 2009, 04:49:00 PM
KC.....send me a PM with where you live around KC.  This may be our ticket to get together.  I've got a brand new gallon here I'd sell you for say.....65% of what a new one costs.  Never been opened. 

Yes.....dipping will work.  I just switched to spar (still dipping with a final coat being spray) right after I bought this gallon.

Parker
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: Aaron at Wingerts Woodworks on April 27, 2009, 05:13:19 PM
PM sent Parker. 
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: VECtor Calls on April 27, 2009, 10:06:12 PM
I bet we can run into eachother at Cabelas some day.   :punk:

Parker
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: harvey8542 on April 28, 2009, 12:37:31 AM
Guy's I dont want t hijack the thread but :hijack: When dipping how do you hang your calls to avoid the little bubble left at the end of the call when it dries?
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: Aaron at Wingerts Woodworks on April 28, 2009, 01:21:03 AM
Parker, I go to Cabelas quite often.  I'd certainly be up for meeting there sometime so we can try out each others calls (and put a face with a name)!

Harvey, you're not hijacking!  That's my biggest concern with dipping.
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: Brian on April 28, 2009, 04:27:42 AM
Harvey,

 I leave the band tenon a little longer than the width of the band and hang it upside down to dry after dipping.  Then when I glue the band on, I just remove the remainder of the band tenon off with the cut-off tool... removing the drip.  If I dont use a band than I spend a while longer shaking off excess and dip 1 or two more times, and hang it as straight as possible.

Brian
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: Brian on April 28, 2009, 04:52:13 AM
I guess I should pay attention to where I'm posting, my technique wont work on turkey pots...my apologies.
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: harvey8542 on April 28, 2009, 08:32:36 AM
Thank you Brian I was indeed asking about all calls so great info :thanks:
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: Heirloom on April 28, 2009, 06:55:22 PM
Funny thing....I was thinking about this very subject yesterday while cleaning the shop. (a whole other story) ANYWAYS.... I had a thought about one of those rotiserie motors and a couple of rods to put the pots on. the slow turning f the pot would keep the drip from forming...maybe?
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: VECtor Calls on April 29, 2009, 01:05:43 AM
Guy's I dont want t hijack the thread but :hijack: When dipping how do you hang your calls to avoid the little bubble left at the end of the call when it dries?

Only thing I've come up with is babysitting the drip.  Once you babysit it once and dab it off, turn you call to where the opposite side of the bottom of the call is hanging the lowest......then make sure that doesn't form a drip, and if it does, rotate it again.

I apologize for not remembering the person that discussed this with me the first time I asked, or I would give them credit.   :smartass:

Parker
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: greenwell1978 on May 01, 2009, 02:58:54 AM
what do you guys use when you dip your calls i have tried deft with paint thinner and it gels up on me to fast is there something else you can mix with it
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: Brian on May 01, 2009, 04:50:34 AM
Mini-wax Polycrylic from Lowes when I do dip, but it's all I've tried so far.  Doesn't leave much of a wood like texture when your done though... I dont know if I care far it on a lot of woods, cocobolo in my opinion sure turns out nice though.
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: dogcatcher on May 02, 2009, 11:29:29 AM
what do you guys use when you dip your calls i have tried deft with paint thinner and it gels up on me to fast is there something else you can mix with it

Try mixing it with a quality lacquer thinner instead of paint thinner.
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: Jeff @ Mutt Calls on May 02, 2009, 05:02:21 PM
Brian, let me know when you get the patent on that rotisserie thingy... I'll buy one from ya  :bigup:

Mutt
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: Repeat on May 03, 2009, 04:23:40 PM
Brian, Mutt
I made a little turning lathe out of a roastire once back when I use to build custom fishing rods it worked out slick for applying the clear coat finish to my wrappings don't know why it wouldn't work for duck calls and such you guys got me wondering now going to have to find it and try it out!! Should you thin out your finish to dip or do you always dip straight out of can ?
Repeat
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: jcz on May 05, 2009, 06:51:12 PM
I used the min-wax poly to dip my calls this weekend. They are my first calls and I diped them right in the can and hung them up. I had to turn them frequently to keep the drip from forming but the end result was worth it. I think they look great!
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: Poor Valley on May 06, 2009, 11:46:15 AM
I also use the polycrilic and usually batch process. Use an airbrush to apply the finish. First application is sort of a semi-sealer, back to the lathe and steel wool. Final coats applied in rotation all at the same setting, until desired results are achieved.

Time per pot is about 5 mniutes and no runs or drips. Airbrush cleanup is a snap since the poly is water base.
Title: Re: spray or dip?
Post by: Aaron at Wingerts Woodworks on May 08, 2009, 09:54:57 AM
I think I've devised a good dipping method for my pots....TREBLE HOOKS.  Big ones like they use for BIG catfish.  I can run a treble hook from the inside of the call through the center hole so I'd be dipping them with the bottom of the call facing up.  The hook can be pushed into the wood enough to make it stay put, and would also facilitate hanging for drying.  Call me crazy but I can't think of any other way to dip a pot without screwing up the finish.

Now a question on finish...
I've switched to spray spar urethane for my calls.  I want to dip them in spar but I'm thinking the spar should be thinned.  What do I thin it with, and how many thinned coats are necessary?  How long does a thinned coat take to dry?  72 hours between coats on this spray stuff is killing me, and it stays tacky for days!!!  Advice?