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The Art of Handcrafting Custom Game Calls => Handcrafting Custom Crow Calls => Topic started by: Ryan@roosagamecalls on December 02, 2014, 06:25:52 PM

Title: crow gut lock up
Post by: Ryan@roosagamecalls on December 02, 2014, 06:25:52 PM
im doing a call for the nwtf contest and my crow guts are locking up when alot of air preasure is applied . sounds good at low pressure. im wondering if i have to open up the mouth piece more.
Title: Re: crow gut lock up
Post by: dogcatcher on December 02, 2014, 11:14:07 PM
Your guts or molded guts?  Without pics it's hard to tell what the problem is. 

Marvin
Title: Re: crow gut lock up
Post by: Ryan@roosagamecalls on December 03, 2014, 07:15:36 AM
my own guts ill put pictures up after work. i think i figured it out one side was a little closer to the reed than the other side . adjusting that did help some
Title: Re: crow gut lock up
Post by: HaMeR on December 03, 2014, 06:31:34 PM
On the few crow guts I made I found that if they fit too tight into the barrel they will absolutely not play well, if at all. The o-ring fit needs to be just snug. I discovered that by switching barrels & guts around. HTH
Title: Re: crow gut lock up
Post by: dogcatcher on December 04, 2014, 01:18:32 AM
my own guts ill put pictures up after work. i think i figured it out one side was a little closer to the reed than the other side . adjusting that did help some

Sounds like you are on the way to solving this.  Usually a little more sanding on the slope will fix the problem, when I say a little, I mean very little, then try it.  Make sure you sand evenly on both sides and both pieces.  The 2 sides need to be as close as humanly possible. 

If you have a made yourself a jig, the next time you might want to try drilling about a 1/16" deeper.  See if that helps, doing this is just about like sanding more slope on the board.  If no jig, after you have tried a few and figured out some of the "secrets" you might see that the drilling is the answer.

Marvin
Title: Re: crow gut lock up
Post by: Ryan@roosagamecalls on December 04, 2014, 06:17:48 AM
Thanks Marvin I've been absesed with crow calls lately I've been working on a jig. Would you suggest a angled tone board like goose guts or slightly sloped boards like a mallard call
Title: Re: crow gut lock up
Post by: dogcatcher on December 04, 2014, 03:41:32 PM
I don't use a jig, I freehand them.  I split pen blanks, turn on center, drill and then free hand sand the slope.  If I was making a jig, I would go with a jig similar to the jig that goose guts are made on.  Making 1/2 at a time.  I would also make it out of wood and use a router bit with a bearing to cut them.  Routers are dangerous, I have all 10 fingers and never have made an emergency room trip because of my woodworking, I am too old to start now.

Marvin
Title: Re: crow gut lock up
Post by: Ryan@roosagamecalls on December 04, 2014, 05:06:50 PM
thanks for the info marvin i thought mallard tone boards were hard now they are like second nature . i gave up on the jig idea for crow guts just for the simple fact it didnt work well with me design ill post a pic of a crow call i finished up soon  :thanks: