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The Art of Handcrafting Custom Game Calls => Stabilizing Your Own Blanks => Topic started by: Scott Ashburn on January 07, 2014, 03:56:32 PM

Title: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: Scott Ashburn on January 07, 2014, 03:56:32 PM
one of the things I've learned since I joined up here last week, was the wealth of information here.  In that info, I learned about the stabilization of certain woods, specifically Spalted woods.  I've got a bunch of spalted Sycamore, and Spalted Hackberry, that I've put off the side, because I didn't like it, and didn't know what to do with it.  This Stabilization process may just be what I need to utilize these woods into turkey calls.  I have an old fish aquarium, approx. 10X20, that might make a good chamber.  My question is, do you think an old aquarium will work?  If so, all I need to get is a plexiglass top.  I have an old a/c vacuum pump at work that I never use anymore for work, so I have most of the pieces.  Anybody want to chime in on weather or not it will work?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: Austy on January 07, 2014, 04:00:27 PM
I know that I wouldn't use it!!  I would think that if you pull a complete vacum it would probably implode!!!
Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: Scott Ashburn on January 07, 2014, 04:03:32 PM
I know that I wouldn't use it!!  I would think that if you pull a complete vacum it would probably implode!!!

That's what I was wondering about.  Might just have to make me a chamber, or buy one cheap.
Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: Scott Ashburn on January 07, 2014, 06:37:22 PM
found a 13x10x3 vacuum chamber on ebay for $117, for stabilizing wood.  Do you think this is a good deal?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BHO-VACUUM-CHAMBER-SILICONE-URATHANE-DEAIRING-STABILIZE-WOOD-BURL-MAKING-MOLDS-/121249701881

Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: Lon @ First Flight Game Calls on January 07, 2014, 07:22:29 PM
If you want to do the valve work. This should do the trick for you. IMHO. Others may want to chime in....


          http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CSG0ON2/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_1

                            Lon
Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: Aaron at Wingerts Woodworks on January 07, 2014, 07:23:31 PM
You won't find a better product or better product support than you'll find from Curtis at TurnTex right here on this forum.  The fish tank idea probably won't hold water, literally.
Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: Scott Ashburn on January 07, 2014, 07:26:32 PM
If you want to do the valve work. This should do the trick for you. IMHO. Others may want to chime in....


          http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CSG0ON2/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_1

                            Lon

thanks,  I was looking for something that I could at least put 2 or 3 blanks in and stabilize at the same time.  Saw several 3 and 5 gallon ones
for similar pricing, but figure that's way too big.  Does this Curtis guy sell vacuum chambers?
Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: Aaron at Wingerts Woodworks on January 07, 2014, 07:29:33 PM
Yes, he sells small ones too, and they're very reasonably priced.
Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: Henry H on January 07, 2014, 09:16:15 PM
Jon Kennedy also sells chambers.  Jon's are glass cylinders of various sizes.  He also offers a "dry system" that allows pulling a vacuum dry then adding resin, which shortens the overall vacuum time.  I have one of Jon's and have been very happy with it.  Curtis makes a great chamber, too... square, clear pvc/acrylic.  Last I checked he was 2-3 months backordered.  I don't know if Jon is backordered.
Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: RVivian on January 07, 2014, 10:17:46 PM
Yes, Curtis makes Vaccum chambers, rectangular and round upright types.  www.turntex.com is his site address.  I have one of his round chambers and have had no problems from it.  Go to his site, get his phone number and give him a call, evenint 6pm to midnite.

Ray
Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: Henry H on January 07, 2014, 10:41:43 PM
To whomever modified my post with "you can't do that and you know better", please drop me a pm and let me know what I did that I shouldn't have done.  If there is some historic issue here, I apologize as I'm unaware of it.
Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: Lon @ First Flight Game Calls on January 08, 2014, 12:08:39 PM
I should have stated the size of the latch lid acrylic vessel for information. It is 8" high and 8" in diameter. I believe there would be plenty of room for a number of blanks. Parts for the valves amount to less than $25.00

                       Lon
Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: dogcatcher on January 08, 2014, 01:36:27 PM
Find a used paint pot on Craigslist.  If you get a 2 1/2 to 5 gallon pot, you can get smaller containers to use inside of it, I use old Tupperware containers so I only have to use the amount of resin I need.   Change out the pressure gauge to a vacuum gauge and replumb the hoses.  Best source of information is on International Association of Penturners, they were doing stabilization years before callmakers. 

Marvin
Title: Re: Stabilizing vessel question?
Post by: Scott Ashburn on January 08, 2014, 09:26:25 PM
I put a bid on one of the vessels on Ebay.  Should find out if I won the auction tomorrow night.  If so, I'll be 75% there to start stabilizing.