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The Art of Handcrafting Custom Game Calls => Stabilizing Your Own Blanks => Topic started by: Donnie on September 17, 2012, 02:22:00 PM

Title: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: Donnie on September 17, 2012, 02:22:00 PM
I'm curious if anyone has tried this. I have access to some big pieces of elk antler and would like to have a couple of chunks dyed and stabilized.
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: VECtor Calls on September 17, 2012, 03:24:28 PM
Nice idea.  I like it!

Vince
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: Donnie on September 17, 2012, 03:42:22 PM
Maybe someone with a home brew setup would like to take this on for me and I'll gladly pay for the materials associated despite the outcome.
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: Jeremy Pederson on September 17, 2012, 04:32:40 PM
Depending on the sizes ( if it fits my set up) i will do it,  no charge, i am new to stabilizing and have done a fair amount of wood but nothing like this.  no worries eirther way.

Jeremy

Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: Donnie on September 17, 2012, 05:58:50 PM
I'm talking about somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.5" by 3" maximum (hopefully a lot smaller) depending on the straightness of the horn. I want a couple of call size blanks to play with. I haven't even seen the stuff yet but will have a 5 gallon bucket to pick through in the next week or so.
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: aprilheadhunter on September 17, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
They've talked about this before, it was pointed out that you have to put tape over one end to keep the resin from running out that being said  I guess you would have to bake it will it was standing vertically
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: TurnTex on September 18, 2012, 02:20:25 AM
Bone and antler can be stabilized quite well.  If the bone is really porous, it may take a couple of cycles to get it done.  I have done whale bone that was very porous, so much so that you could see light through it from one end to the other.
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: birddog1 on September 18, 2012, 05:14:49 AM
I've done some antler once with Curtis 's(Turn tex) set up and it works well you get a little variation of color because of the densitys in the antler but it comes out nice . Working on a call now ,doing it in blood wood  with red antler cap . We will see how it turns out.
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: Donnie on September 18, 2012, 09:14:53 AM
All good information guys, and I appreciate it. I'll have to wait til next week to get my bucket to see what I have to work with and hopefully it looks good enough to do some work with.
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: SCMB Game Calls on September 18, 2012, 03:11:30 PM
Where do you get resin? 
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: VECtor Calls on September 18, 2012, 05:28:02 PM
I'm really looking forward to seeing what you come up with Dennis.  Keep us updated!

Vince
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: birddog1 on September 18, 2012, 06:29:46 PM
I have the antler in the oven as I type  6:29 pm est.
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: SCMB Game Calls on September 20, 2012, 07:24:09 AM
I have a lot of Elk antler.   Most of it is too porous to do anything with.   Being able to stabilize it would be a huge deal for me.    How is the project going?
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: Wane on September 20, 2012, 09:21:56 AM
You can use Curtis' Catus Juice. Go to Turn Tex he has resin and and chambers.
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: birddog1 on September 20, 2012, 04:45:09 PM
I will have some pic . tomorrow of some stabilize moose antler on a grunt , came out pretty nice
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: birddog1 on September 22, 2012, 05:19:24 AM
A grunt done with Blood wood & walnut ,the walnut was only because I screwed it up and I didn't want to make fire wood out of it ,and the end are stabilize Moose antler.(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/fallingriver[IMG]http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/fallingrivers2/fricalls003_zps2ba83f91.jpg)s2/fricalls005_zps935478ca.jpg[/IMG] The antler are cut to about the size I need
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: birddog1 on September 22, 2012, 05:21:37 AM
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/fallingrivers2/fricalls003_zps2ba83f91.jpg)
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: birddog1 on September 22, 2012, 05:22:59 AM
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/fallingrivers2/fricalls005_zps935478ca.jpg)
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: Donnie on September 22, 2012, 10:36:55 PM
That turned out well Doug.
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: VECtor Calls on September 23, 2012, 12:20:03 AM
Nice work!  I really do like how that turned out!

I'm thinking a green or a brown if I were to do it.  I wonder if a brown would give it an 'old time stained' look to the antler?

Vince
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: birddog1 on September 23, 2012, 10:34:31 AM
that a thought I will have to try that ,I'll have to get a hold of Curtis for more juice and colors
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: trooperjd on September 23, 2012, 11:31:02 PM
Guys I have Curtis' setup and have done some large whitetail antler before.  I would just ensure that the antler has been allowed to dry for some time before you try to stabilize.  I did a set of antlers for a pen set that were only allowed to dry about three months.  The inside near the base turned a yucky yellow and brown where the "marrow" would be when put in the oven to cure.  I did another set that was on the fence in all the elements for about a year.  Boy they turned out great, couldnt have been happier.  Maybe it was just my luck or an isolated incident.
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: TurnTex on September 24, 2012, 01:08:18 AM
Guys I have Curtis' setup and have done some large whitetail antler before.  I would just ensure that the antler has been allowed to dry for some time before you try to stabilize.  I did a set of antlers for a pen set that were only allowed to dry about three months.  The inside near the base turned a yucky yellow and brown where the "marrow" would be when put in the oven to cure.  I did another set that was on the fence in all the elements for about a year.  Boy they turned out great, couldnt have been happier.  Maybe it was just my luck or an isolated incident.

I would suggest drying the antler in an oven at 150° F for 24 hours before stabilizing.  That should dry them out close to 0% moisture and eliminate the problem you had.
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: birddog1 on September 24, 2012, 04:58:47 AM
The antler I did was 4 or 5 years old so there was no problem , as you can see it came out pink with the marrow alittle redder
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: Butch @ Droptyne designs on June 19, 2013, 08:50:35 PM
IT has been since sept 2012 and I would like to see a stabilized antler.  I have elk and deer antler.
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: VECtor Calls on June 20, 2013, 12:42:09 AM
Butch, what you see in the photos earlier in the thread is what you get. A photo isn't going to have an antler showing up in a photo any different than one that is not stabilized if it is not dyed during the process.

The dying process will take the slightly milky white bone and give it a little color. I have not seen any ever that were overly brilliant/vibrant. Like above, a red will end up generally pink, etc.

Vince
Title: Re: Stabilizing Bone and Antler
Post by: Frank Fusco on August 28, 2013, 07:45:36 PM
I have a lot of Elk antler.   Most of it is too porous to do anything with.   Being able to stabilize it would be a huge deal for me.    How is the project going?

I don't see the point in stabilizing antler or bone. But with porous/marrow using resin to fill in might make it usable. No need to use vacuum just dunk and soak for a while then let cure.